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If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 01:54
by paulsl
Things could get more trying....

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Everything you need to know about the quality of Australian journalism is implied in the 3rd paragraph from the end 8)

Paul

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 02:15
by FlyTexas
Yikes! :-O Better the number two prop cutting loose than the number one prop. :worried: Glad everyone's ok. :)

Brian

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 08:53
by cstorey
paulsl wrote: Everything you need to know about the quality of Australian journalism is implied in the 3rd paragraph from the end

Paul
I think you are being a bit hard , Paul. The proposition is not as obvious as it might be thought , and there was a time when staying in the air after loss of one engine depended on how much you could throw out and how quickly ! Think Anson, Oxford etc and there are still quite a few aeroplanes around where loss at a critical moment is not something to be relished - the Twin Comanche is an example but there are others as well even extending up the range as far as the KingAir

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 09:18
by DaveB
Quite remarkable it didn't damage the aircraft :-O

My old favourite, the Rapide, is another aircraft whereby if you lose an engine on takeoff with the aircraft anywhere near MTOW.. you WILL come down. Taking off from Heathrow wouldn't be a problem though. You could land back on the runway and taxi in :lol:
ATB
DaveB B)smk

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 13:19
by Nigel H-J
Very very lucky. Thankfully no-one was hurt.

Regards
Nigel.

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 15:08
by blanston12
Very lucky indeed, good thing they were only 10mn from there destination and therefore fairly light.

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 13:03
by Airspeed
I am still wondering why nobody has located the loose prop. yet. :dunno:

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 16:18
by Nigel H-J
I am still wondering why nobody has located the loose prop. yet. :dunno:
Probably being used as a ceiling fan for the hot weather!!

Nigel.

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 02:33
by Chris Trott
cstorey wrote:
paulsl wrote: Everything you need to know about the quality of Australian journalism is implied in the 3rd paragraph from the end

Paul
I think you are being a bit hard , Paul. The proposition is not as obvious as it might be thought , and there was a time when staying in the air after loss of one engine depended on how much you could throw out and how quickly ! Think Anson, Oxford etc and there are still quite a few aeroplanes around where loss at a critical moment is not something to be relished - the Twin Comanche is an example but there are others as well even extending up the range as far as the KingAir
My issue is more with this "Certified Airplane Engineer" and his comments than the reporting itself. For a so-called "professional", he was quite unprofessional in his comments and doesn't help the situation at all. For all his education, he doesn't seem to have a lot of understanding of history or aerodynamics. In all the complete propeller separations in history, only rarely is there damage done to the airplane by the propeller. When it initially separates, it moves ahead of the engine, then as the inertia reduces and blade drag takes effect, it will be pulled to the side and down, passing harmlessly underneath the aircraft. Even when a propeller sheds only its blades, it tends to only cause minor damage to the aircraft.

Here's a great video of an actual inflight separation - https://youtu.be/2MEapiGMbxw?t=10s

Re: If filthy weather isn't enough

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 03:22
by Kevin Farnell
Chris Trott wrote:
Here's a great video of an actual inflight separation - https://youtu.be/2MEapiGMbxw?t=10s
I'm always confused as to why this is called a 'dead stick landing'? The stick is still very much operational. It's the engines ability to provide thrust that's knackered! The pilot retains control of the elevators and ailerons (the rudder too, but I've not heard of a 'dead rudder' landing).

Just a thought and credit to the pilot for a safe landing.

Kevin